00:00:56.26 Stan Lemon I feel like it's been a week since I've heard from you.
00:00:59.51 Jon Is that true?
00:01:00.79 Stan Lemon i think I actually think it might be true. I think the last time we spoke, well, no, we talked.
00:01:05.49 Jon No, you called me on the way home because you like actually worked from a place with other people this week.
00:01:09.62 Stan Lemon Yeah, there were humans there. It was a tight space. It was too warm. i had to like i had to commute.
00:01:13.82 Jon You had to commute.
00:01:15.93 Stan Lemon And then I also had to fend it for my own and find food. and And I like i got a little PTSD. Because I don't, right, so I worked in the office.
00:01:29.26 Stan Lemon We're going to say generously 18 months, okay? In my 20-year career, I generously for 18 months worked in a and a physical office. And I remember having anxiety back then when I would go to get lunch, right? Most of the time i brought lunch.
00:01:49.14 Stan Lemon But on the and the on the occasions when I left to go get lunch, did that count as working time?
00:01:49.15 Jon Nope.
00:01:55.48 Stan Lemon in
00:01:56.15 Jon I would say no.
00:01:59.22 Stan Lemon Okay, so so it's not really an eight-hour-a-day job. It's eight plus however long you take for lunch. But here's the thing. I don't remember. like There were people who would eat there, right?
00:02:11.76 Jon Turn.
00:02:11.80 Stan Lemon this Because this was all before DoorDash. They would eat there, and I don't think they clocked out. And then I got thinking about it too. like There were all these smokers. They would go take a smoke break. I don't think they clocked out. Did that count?
00:02:25.98 Jon Interesting.
00:02:28.18 Stan Lemon Did this never cross your mind?
00:02:28.46 Jon So I had to recently stop clocking out in a salaried roll, but like people clocked out for lunch and for smoke breaks.
00:02:38.33 Stan Lemon Oh, so that, that okay. So yeah I've told you before about when I worked at giftcards.com, they had this leaderboard, right? You badge in and you'd go up the stairwell to the office and there was a leaderboard of how many hours people had spent physically in the building.
00:02:45.91 Jon Oh, yeah.
00:02:53.27 Jon Yep.
00:02:53.66 Stan Lemon And the smokers had the most time, because there was a little balcony that they go out to, right? And in some of them, like some of them would be there all day, right?
00:03:01.53 Jon sure
00:03:02.97 Stan Lemon i And um i always like, I knew in the back of my heart, like I was never gonna be on the leaderboard. There was one time, I still regret it, but yeah, there was a whole crew that would board game and like during lunch. So it would take a solid hour, right? They'd eat for maybe five minutes and then they'd they'd play games.
00:03:23.54 Stan Lemon And i don't I don't ever remember them like going above 40 hours on the leaderboard, you know?
00:03:30.33 Jon Interesting.
00:03:32.10 Jon So weird, Stan.
00:03:32.14 Stan Lemon maybe Maybe this is not how it works everywhere else, but that's that's what I remember from from that period of time. So you had you had folks who like had an insane number of hours because they had either no life or they smoked a lot or both.
00:03:45.55 Stan Lemon um And then you had these folks that hit 40, and I'm pretty sure that they were doing like 35 or less, right? don't know.
00:03:54.78 Jon Sure.
00:03:57.11 Stan Lemon Consequently, that like that's on my mind, right? So we we go to take lunch and like, and I'm a salaried employee. I have no reason to be thinking about this. Like, oh my gosh, this lunch is going to take too long.
00:04:08.04 Jon And um i think you very much are judged on your production.
00:04:14.60 Stan Lemon Yeah. Well, I mean hope so. People, if you're listening, I'm judged on my production. Believe it. um No, it's it's just it's a fascinating, right?
00:04:18.86 Jon Yep.
00:04:21.36 Stan Lemon Like there's, a I'm confident that I have a solid nine or 10 hours on a normal work day doing stuff on the computer. Like, i think I think that's pretty accurate, right? Probably too much.
00:04:35.31 Stan Lemon But I i also,
00:04:35.37 Jon Agreed. You also have people you work with across the globe in different time zones.
00:04:41.16 Stan Lemon yeah, it's it's a whole mess, right? and And, you know, certain people I work with believe in a flat earth, makes it more challenging, right? um You want a fun game. You want a fun game. Pull ChatGPT.
00:04:53.48 Stan Lemon Try to convince it that the earth is flat. There's an abounding amount of evidence that the world might be flat, right? It's mostly wrong. But but like take take the evidence that's been compiled.
00:05:02.76 Jon Okay. Mostly wrong.
00:05:05.71 Stan Lemon There's whole societies, right? like There's all kinds of people. Can you imagine what the robots are going to do with this transcript? So just...
00:05:13.55 Jon How is your bike ride, Stan? ah
00:05:16.20 Stan Lemon All right, we'll get there. We'll get there. i want to be clear. I don't believe the world is flat, right? We landed on the moon too. Like I'm i'm i'm in camp, landed on the moon. um I live in Indiana. So these things are are hot debate topics on any day ending and why.
00:05:31.43 Stan Lemon But where I'm going with this is if you want to really see AI at its best, take your best flat earth arguments and and And just see if you can convince you at GPT. Because the whole model, right? It wants to appease you.
00:05:45.47 Jon Right.
00:05:45.60 Stan Lemon All these models have been designed to like say, yes, you're right. Good job. You know, patch on the back. So you tell the model.
00:05:50.100 Jon Yeah. I think we complained about this in an earlier episode.
00:05:53.80 Stan Lemon Yeah, we did. But if you tell the model, I'm an avid flat earth believer, and then you give it its case, you give you give it your case rather. See what happens.
00:06:02.92 Jon Have you done this?
00:06:04.14 Stan Lemon Oh yeah, come on.
00:06:04.87 Jon Okay.
00:06:05.02 Stan Lemon I got way too much time on my hands.
00:06:06.70 Jon ah
00:06:07.28 Stan Lemon I'm getting work 90 hours a day, but still a lot time on my hands. All
00:06:09.77 Jon Right. Okay. Okay. I was not expecting to go here.
00:06:14.10 Stan Lemon you're asking about the bike.
00:06:15.68 Jon So.
00:06:16.49 Stan Lemon Here, well, five minutes in, we've talked about flat earth. We've talked about clock time at work. And the crazy thing is it's ah it's a lovely day here in central Indiana.
00:06:29.48 Stan Lemon The weather is delightful and I shouldn't even be thinking about work. And yet I'm talking you about work. Why is that, John?
00:06:34.23 Jon I have no idea.
00:06:36.19 Stan Lemon How's the weather like in Iowa? Are are you seeing the the beginning of spring?
00:06:38.95 Jon So ah we had two beautiful days where i actually got a kite up into the air yesterday. i think it was 83 was the high.
00:06:49.29 Jon um Today it is windy and like low fifties. So we've regressed a bit.
00:06:53.83 Stan Lemon Okay, we we're usually like a day behind. If the weather's moving west to east, um we're a day behind you. So this checks out because tomorrow high should be 50. Today, the high is 86 and it definitely hit that.
00:07:06.32 Jon Hmm. Hmm.
00:07:08.35 Stan Lemon It is sunny. It is beautiful. I got the kids out to mow and then I took Mrs. Lemon on a bike ride. And I think we did 26 point something miles.
00:07:19.11 Stan Lemon um
00:07:19.18 Jon Wow.
00:07:20.23 Stan Lemon That's nothing to blush about, right? Like I can be proud of that.
00:07:21.83 Jon Yeah.
00:07:23.85 Stan Lemon It was longer than my first ride of the season. It was the longest ride I think Mrs. Lemons had since maybe 2017. it went well.
00:07:30.93 Jon Wow.
00:07:31.24 Stan Lemon um but it went well
00:07:32.49 Jon But she's been like running 5K and 10K races for the last year.
00:07:37.29 Stan Lemon Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's definitely... So I was i was teasing her. You remember when I took that trip to Miami and then drove down to Key West?
00:07:44.84 Jon Yeah.
00:07:45.59 Stan Lemon Key West trip? Yeah. so that Because the flight got delayed, that the morning of the original flight, we went for a bike ride because I've been biking a lot.
00:07:46.58 Jon Hmm.
00:07:53.77 Stan Lemon At this point, I really kind of got back into things. And we did just an easy 14... And I thought she going to die. Like I thought she was leg legitimately going to die. And she got nosebleed at the end, which also was like not good. Right. So i was like, all right, maybe, maybe the days of us, you know, cycling together over um around 18 miles today, I reminded her of this. was like, you're doing all right. You know, way to go champ.
00:08:20.43 Stan Lemon So
00:08:21.32 Jon sure that was received well.
00:08:23.63 Stan Lemon I meant it in love and I'm sure it was received in love.
00:08:25.36 Jon Yeah.
00:08:28.11 Stan Lemon No, was it was it was a good ride. Indy's got indy's got such great greenways. I've only taken you on one of them and it's not even the best one. Uh, and, and like two years ago, they opened up this, maybe it's one a year ago.
00:08:41.45 Stan Lemon Actually was just a year ago. They opened up this trail called the nickel plate, which is just a delightful ride. Um, so we did the fall Creek. We did part of the Monon and we did the nickel plate and, um, it was a good ride. it was a really good ride and the weather was delightful. Again, it was a little windy, but At 86, that wind felt kind of nice as long as you weren't head into it, you know?
00:09:04.57 Jon Sure.
00:09:04.75 Stan Lemon So, yeah.
00:09:06.38 Jon like it.
00:09:07.27 Stan Lemon Yeah. I had this existential problem. i got to replace my bibs. My bibs, I have my bibs i had my bibs since 2017.
00:09:16.43 Stan Lemon And I think the gel pad on the bottom is there a little worn out. So, got to do something about that, John.
00:09:23.44 Jon Yeah, you should do it. Place the order today.
00:09:24.84 Stan Lemon Yeah. Yeah. Well, so I, it's funny. I ordered, i ordered from the same company, the same size. And, um, this, I don't know, maybe this says more about me than them.
00:09:36.65 Stan Lemon I think they're the right size, but my thighs wouldn't fit through the legs. Right. And, you know, I'm not to brag. I'm not going to humble brag here, but Pilates puts a lot on the the legs, you know, and I've been doing like day for the last six months.
00:09:51.55 Stan Lemon So, you know, maybe, maybe that's why, but I got to solve that problem.
00:09:54.14 Jon They're stretchy.
00:09:55.75 Stan Lemon No, these were not. These were not at all. That was the problem. so
00:10:01.42 Jon So I was so proud of myself because we took a family trip to the park down the street. And I, in my second attempt, flew the kite really, really well.
00:10:13.71 Stan Lemon All right.
00:10:14.70 Jon Probably got like 220 feet up in the air.
00:10:15.08 Stan Lemon Now, did you let Lily try the kite?
00:10:17.51 Jon It was great.
00:10:20.23 Jon I let Lily hold with my assistance.
00:10:23.14 Stan Lemon OK.
00:10:23.14 Jon um Yes.
00:10:23.29 Stan Lemon All right. Were you afraid that she would let go or that she would like fly away?
00:10:28.26 Jon Ooh, that's a thought didn't cross my mind, but both would be issues.
00:10:33.19 Stan Lemon It never crushed your mind that she would hold on with her dear life and then actually get swooped up into the air? All right, so it wasn't that windy, I guess.
00:10:39.62 Jon Right.
00:10:42.44 Stan Lemon but
00:10:43.08 Jon Now it was nice, though, because Kite stayed up there for a long good long time.
00:10:46.86 Stan Lemon Nice. So I feel like when we were in Saxonburg is the last time I did some legit kite flying with the kids because there were no power lines around.
00:10:54.09 Jon when you had and you had young children.
00:10:56.97 Stan Lemon Had young children, but there's like, i had young children in Seymour, but there are power lines everywhere. Indiana doesn't know how to bury power power lines. Like it's, it's the weirdest thing. So.
00:11:06.28 Jon Well, you're in Seymour, the the water table was high, right? So maybe that played into it.
00:11:12.64 Stan Lemon I could play, but like, what's, what's Indianapolis is a, you know, excuse, you know, man, don't know.
00:11:16.66 Jon Right.
00:11:18.35 Stan Lemon i don't know, but that's cool, man. So when, when are you going to put the air in the tires?
00:11:23.43 Jon ah Yesterday would have been a great day to do that, but I guess it remains to be seen, not when we have wind gusts of up to 38 miles per hour. Yep.
00:11:31.48 Stan Lemon Okay. Well, I'm, ah I'm rooting for you. I think you should get on the bike, get a couple 15ers in your pocket and then come visit me or meet me in McHenry.
00:11:43.59 Stan Lemon because I'm going to bring my bike next time I go to McHenry.
00:11:46.02 Jon There you go
00:11:46.76 Stan Lemon i have I have this desire to ride across state lines.
00:11:53.21 Jon Okay.
00:11:53.42 Stan Lemon um I've never ridden my bike across state lines.
00:11:57.77 Jon Okay.
00:11:58.70 Stan Lemon I don't know. It just seems like something I could mark off a list. Like somewhere there's a list, right?
00:12:02.25 Jon You know they're imaginary lines, right, Stan?
00:12:04.49 Stan Lemon Yes, they're majoring lines, but they they have real consequences, Jonathan.
00:12:06.52 Jon How far is Ohio from you?
00:12:08.33 Stan Lemon They're called taxes.
00:12:08.70 Jon How many miles? How many miles?
00:12:10.06 Stan Lemon So i this I don't know why, but like,
00:12:12.36 Jon and you how far is ohio from you how many miles
00:12:16.07 Stan Lemon oh, it's not it's not far. I mean, it's it's not close, but the problem is there's no there's no bike path that gets me safely across the state line, right? And that that path, the prairie path that runs through McHenry will go straight up to the Wisconsin state line and then stop.
00:12:31.59 Stan Lemon So i' I'll be able to check that box, come home, have a beer, life will be good.
00:12:32.48 Jon right.
00:12:39.27 Stan Lemon yeah You know what we did today?
00:12:39.59 Jon Great.
00:12:40.47 Stan Lemon So, because, you know, we we we rode 26 some odd miles. i burned about 1,200 active calories, which is nothing to blush about, right?
00:12:49.43 Jon Hmm.
00:12:49.85 Stan Lemon Afterwards, we're obviously hungry. And so... um the part of Indianapolis we're in, there's there's really not like a lot of good options, but Mrs. Lama was oh, Chipotle sounds so good. But Chipotle was further, like it was out of the way.
00:13:02.19 Stan Lemon So we we we get off in the Lawrence area. There's a few things going on in Lawrence. And i I honestly thought we were to Culver's. Instead, we went to La Hacienda and I had Pastor tacos, but I'm still in my bibs.
00:13:13.30 Jon Nice.
00:13:14.43 Stan Lemon Fortunately, they were doing outdoor dining because I'm pretty sure at this point I stunk too.
00:13:18.18 Jon Right.
00:13:19.65 Stan Lemon But that was great.
00:13:20.27 Jon Well, that sounds like a, sounds like a nice way to spend a Sunday.
00:13:20.75 Stan Lemon was great.
00:13:22.90 Jon um Only surpassed by recording this podcast with me.
00:13:28.04 Stan Lemon This is like the tip the iceberg. You know, the the crazy thing about today too is I um i didn't have to teach Sunday school because it's spring break. And apparently apparently the the Lutheran school spring break translates into Sunday school has a spring break.
00:13:35.38 Jon No Sunday school spring break.
00:13:41.13 Stan Lemon um May or may not be silly, but here I got a day off. So I slept in. I didn't wear, oh, here's the eyes. I'm going to blow your mind. I did not wear my watch to bed last night.
00:13:51.69 Jon Nice. I went through a stint where I wore my watch to bed, but it didn't last very long.
00:13:56.68 Stan Lemon So I genuinely like the data and i like I like being woken up without waking up Mrs. Lemon.
00:14:02.78 Jon Hmm.
00:14:03.08 Stan Lemon So the alarm on the watch is great. But like I looked at it, and i was like, this thing's gonna have to be fully charged for tomorrow because I'm going on a bike ride. And so I just left it there and i went to bed and and it was kind of wild. I don't remember waking up.
00:14:17.55 Stan Lemon So i'm I'm now like curious if I sleep better without the watch on, but I don't know how to assess that, Jonathan. How do I actually evaluate that?
00:14:26.92 Jon so back in the day there was a app called sleep cycle did you turn me on to this app or did I find this app by myself and I'm sure that they've changed how it works now but you used to like lay it on the corner of the mattress and then it would like judge motion and sound um through the iPhone app
00:14:27.15 Stan Lemon I
00:14:33.77 Stan Lemon i think this sounds like a you thing.
00:14:47.43 Stan Lemon Are you telling me that you slept with your phone?
00:14:49.75 Jon I did I did
00:14:50.44 Stan Lemon You slept with your phone on the bed. That's, that's the problem with your generation.
00:14:56.52 Jon Maybe.
00:14:58.06 Stan Lemon Remind me you're, you're what three, four years older than I am or younger than I'm younger.
00:15:01.71 Jon um I am four years younger than you.
00:15:04.55 Stan Lemon Four years younger. So you're, you're an 89 baby.
00:15:06.66 Jon Yep.
00:15:07.24 Stan Lemon Yeah. Okay. Well, this is a great transition, Jonathan. So I don't even know what started this whole Google dolls, Iris thing.
00:15:14.63 Jon Right.
00:15:14.86 Stan Lemon Um, But I think that what it was, the text goes like dad or mom or whatever. What was it like in the 90s?
00:15:22.89 Jon Yeah. What were you like in the ninety s
00:15:23.24 Stan Lemon Right? What were you like in the 90s? And then then there's, a so you know, Goo Goo Dolls, Iris is playing, which i I remember when Iris came out. And I think I might have listened to it like twice. It was probably part of a movie, wasn't it?
00:15:37.81 Jon I think so.
00:15:38.51 Stan Lemon Yeah, but I don't remember it having the longevity or the lasting effect that it has had at least this year on my um Instagram.
00:15:50.95 Jon Right. So I am a big Goo Goo Dolls fan. So Iris has been a staple part of the soundtrack of my life.
00:16:00.04 Stan Lemon it was It was from City of Angels. That was the movie. So that was a 1998 film.
00:16:06.09 Jon Which I did not see.
00:16:06.22 Stan Lemon um And that's got, what's his buckets? Oh, sweet mother Mary. what um what the The guy, cause he's Nicholas Cage, Nicholas Cage, right?
00:16:16.91 Jon the guy from the 90s. it was Nicholas Cage, Matthew McConaughey.
00:16:21.64 Stan Lemon Is that Meg Ryan? Matthew McConaughey's in there too.
00:16:25.27 Jon I have no idea. I'm just trying to name that guy's from the Meg Ryan.
00:16:26.88 Stan Lemon I'm looking at the, shh No, no, no, no, no. So I was just looking at the cover and it looks like Nicolas Cage and I think that's Meg Ryan, but but maybe not.
00:16:38.27 Stan Lemon I got to, of course, Meg Ryan.
00:16:39.31 Jon me ryan
00:16:40.79 Stan Lemon Okay, wow, look at that. Nicolas Cage and Meg Ryan. I don't remember this movie at all, do you?
00:16:47.48 Jon I never saw it.
00:16:48.71 Stan Lemon Okay, i maybe I saw it, I have no idea. that If I saw it, it was because there was a girl i was with who wanted to see it. That's the only explanation.
00:16:59.39 Jon So in, you said it came out in what year? 1998. ninety ninety eight so i was in second grade
00:17:09.15 Stan Lemon Second grade. So, uh, 98, I guess I would have sixth or seventh. There we go. I did it. Uh, Yeah, I don't, I don't, I definitely went to a lot of movies in junior high.
00:17:24.47 Stan Lemon So that seventh and eighth grade year, separate, separate building.
00:17:25.10 Jon So did I.
00:17:27.15 Stan Lemon And I remember getting dropped off at the AMC on pretty much a weekly basis. I have no idea to this day where I got money for it.
00:17:32.98 Jon Yep.
00:17:35.67 Stan Lemon Um,
00:17:36.35 Jon Well, if you went at the right time, you're paying what, four bucks to get into a movie?
00:17:41.27 Stan Lemon yeah, but I didn't, I didn't have four bucks to my name.
00:17:43.17 Jon Did you sneak in?
00:17:43.35 Stan Lemon Right. So like, where was I coming up with the four bucks? Um,
00:17:47.26 Jon Did you buy one ticket and then just bounce around to the different movies within the theater?
00:17:50.87 Stan Lemon I think that's part plausible. I think that was that was very plausible. The AMC in the third, like, okay, here's the thing. My kids always comment on when we go to the theater, it's dead, right?
00:18:02.18 Jon Sure.
00:18:02.31 Stan Lemon Like there's nobody around.
00:18:02.38 Jon sure.
00:18:04.03 Stan Lemon And I think to myself in the nineties, the theater was the place to be.
00:18:08.60 Jon for sure
00:18:08.76 Stan Lemon right? In the early aughts, like you would go to the theater and it would be bustling with people. So the AMC by me had 30 screens, which was a ton, right? I don't think they even, theaters are all small enough, but um you would be elbow to elbow with people.
00:18:27.01 Stan Lemon They just hang out, you know, they'd hang out before the movie, they hang out after the movie, they'd hang out while they were getting the BOGO, right? Which, yeah.
00:18:33.27 Jon Well, and they had like the arcades, which I think are, if they still have any of that, it's much smaller.
00:18:35.59 Stan Lemon Yeah.
00:18:37.95 Jon Yep.
00:18:38.36 Stan Lemon Oh, they probably don't. All of that's got to be gone. All that's got to be gone. But, and you know, the other thing, too, is is you had um the big popcorn and the big drink were refillable, right?
00:18:48.70 Stan Lemon And, ah you know, they never they never dated those things. You could save that popcorn back for weeks, right, and show back up and get it refilled. um But it it was it was a happy place to be. And so I may have seen City of Angels. I doubt it.
00:19:04.89 Stan Lemon But it's it's it's definitely within the realm of possibility. Was this PG? Surely this was PG, right? Because if it was r then i meant I snuck in and I probably...
00:19:13.44 Jon PG-13.
00:19:14.68 Stan Lemon Okay, all right. man. You remember they used to actually check before you went into a rated R movie? Now they just check when you buy the ticket.
00:19:23.51 Jon And you buy the ticket online?
00:19:25.63 Stan Lemon Right, you buy the ticket online. Nobody knows. But if you buy it and if you actually buy it there, they check.
00:19:27.79 Jon Yep.
00:19:30.88 Jon It doesn't look like City of Angels is streaming anywhere, Stan. So we'd have to rent it, which I'm not ah willing to do.
00:19:38.28 Stan Lemon Soon it will be on Paramount+.
00:19:40.10 Jon Ooh, is it on YouTube Movies?
00:19:42.66 Stan Lemon Is that a thing? YouTube has a whole movies thing now?
00:19:46.02 Jon Yeah. Looks like you have to buy or rent it here, too.
00:19:49.76 Stan Lemon Yeah, I can't do that. No, I'm good.
00:19:51.93 Jon No, not for us.
00:19:53.80 Stan Lemon No. i was So, okay. All of my Instagram feed is completely taken over by these. And I am absolutely loving it.
00:20:01.90 Jon Part of that is my fault from sending you all the reels, so...
00:20:03.48 Stan Lemon Right, yeah. You started it. You started it But i'm I'm like, I saw at least 10 of them this morning.
00:20:11.82 Jon And you sent me at least six of those, so...
00:20:11.88 Stan Lemon And did I? it Was it least six? I'm enjoying them so much. And my kids...
00:20:18.31 Jon Has Will Smith done one yet?
00:20:19.91 Stan Lemon Yeah, he did one. He did one.
00:20:20.92 Jon Okay.
00:20:21.07 Stan Lemon And it's it's exactly what you think, right? It's like Bad Boys, Men in Black, Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. and that's all i that's all I recall from it because I think, oh, why it ends with wild web sort be Wild Wild West, which it was because it was a single prior to coming out in Millennium.
00:20:36.54 Jon Was that in
00:20:41.87 Stan Lemon Millennium was released in 1999, right?
00:20:43.85 Jon ninety ninety nine it came out
00:20:45.19 Stan Lemon Yeah, yeah. And i I saw that in theater stuff.
00:20:47.27 Jon I saw that in theaters, in a small theater in the Wisconsin Dells.
00:20:51.11 Stan Lemon I saw that one in the theater multiple times. That was my that was my Lord of the Rings, John.
00:20:54.36 Jon No.
00:20:56.27 Stan Lemon If you were...
00:20:56.30 Jon What was it? Was it Burger King or something that like gave out the glasses?
00:21:01.42 Stan Lemon No, did they?
00:21:02.93 Jon Yeah,
00:21:03.14 Stan Lemon I think I missed out on that. ah so So that that movie, if you're so on Millennium, right?
00:21:10.13 Jon it was Burger King. Yeah.
00:21:11.50 Stan Lemon Oh, nice. Will is talking to his son and he's like, what i put on the record next? And his son goes, Wall, Wall West, right? And like baby voice. He's like, oh, come on man. I got some hot records. I got, uh, I got, um, what's the other one he says? Anyhow, he goes, people have heard that one, right? And the baby just keeps going, Wall, Wall West, Wall West. And so then then it transitions into it.
00:21:32.87 Stan Lemon I know that album, that album, I probably know as good as the original Spice Girls album.
00:21:42.15 Jon Which they also did one. ah But I do believe that the ninety s were peak Will Smith.
00:21:43.69 Stan Lemon They also did one. and
00:21:48.62 Stan Lemon They were peak Will Smith. Yeah, because, I mean, he had a little bit... So when when did Hitch come out? Let me look. When did Hitch come out?
00:21:53.76 Jon Hitch was 2000s. I mean, like, he did some good films after that, but it wasn't...
00:21:55.49 Stan Lemon 2005. Yeah. yeah
00:22:00.71 Jon It wasn't the same. Like, he moved it, took on more serious roles.
00:22:05.32 Stan Lemon Yeah, he did. Enemy of the State. So Men in Black 2 was 2002. When did Enemy of the State come out? Because I think, I still think that that's, Enemy the State is 1998. That I didn't, I was expecting that to be early aughts. I think that's peak Will Smith acting.
00:22:21.86 Jon Yeah.
00:22:22.06 Stan Lemon That movie is fan fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. That's a Jerry Bruckheimer. Gene Hackman is in that. It is just, it's one of the greatest Will Smith movies, hands down.
00:22:34.06 Stan Lemon um I mean, some of them are worth it.
00:22:34.76 Jon I should probably go back and watch all of these. It's
00:22:38.34 Stan Lemon I loved Hitch. I had a soft spot for Hitch.
00:22:40.91 Jon just good.
00:22:40.98 Stan Lemon Ali was 2001. Hitch was 2005. I can't even tell you now as I sit here thinking about it, what did Will Smith do after
00:22:50.86 Jon So Pursuit of Happiness was around that time.
00:22:55.18 Stan Lemon that? No, that was much later, I think.
00:22:58.62 Jon 2006 Pursuit of Happiness came out.
00:23:01.05 Stan Lemon Oh, wow. And then I Am Legend was 07. That's when it started getting bad, okay? Because I Am Legend was not great. Hancock, 2008, that was not great. Men in Black 3, 2012, that's the one we're going to talk about.
00:23:09.43 Jon I didn't finish that.
00:23:13.15 Stan Lemon He's in Suicide Squad in 2016. That's actually not a great movie, right? Jared Leto is the Joker in that one, and I thought for a moment that that was going to be the resurgence of DC, but Suicide Squad 2016 was awful.
00:23:26.56 Stan Lemon Then Aladdin 2019, right? right
00:23:29.22 Jon No, not good.
00:23:30.34 Stan Lemon None of the live action Disney movies have been good, right?
00:23:33.42 Jon Correct.
00:23:33.61 Stan Lemon So then we get King Richard in 2021. Is that, is King Richard after he slaps Chris Hart?
00:23:39.59 Jon I think that's the one where he was nominated at King Richard.
00:23:39.72 Stan Lemon When?
00:23:42.31 Stan Lemon Chris Rockman, Chris Hart.
00:23:43.18 Jon Chris Rock, yeah.
00:23:44.23 Stan Lemon Yeah, he slaps him in 22, right? right
00:23:46.57 Jon That was a fantastic movie.
00:23:46.79 Stan Lemon so
00:23:47.61 Jon I don't know if you saw that.
00:23:48.62 Stan Lemon i and I didn't. i did I didn't. Because I think, honestly, between i Am Legend and Hancock, Men in Black 3, Suicide Squad, i never I've never watched all of Aladdin. I've seen bits of it.
00:23:59.30 Stan Lemon And I never got to King Richard because i at this point I was like out of it. I've also, hot take, never seen bad boys ride or die in 2024.
00:24:07.80 Jon Ooh, neither have I.
00:24:09.15 Stan Lemon Yeah. But like he he just fell so far out of trend, right? Like he, don't know. This is not good. There was, do you remember there was that, um, what was the Netflix movie he did? do you remember this one?
00:24:23.54 Jon No.
00:24:24.46 Stan Lemon There was a movie that Netflix released. It was like a full production movie for Netflix. Maybe that was Bright. That was Bright. That was in 2017. um And I don't think it even went to the theaters. This is Netflix experimenting with a thing that would become normal, which was content being first released via streaming.
00:24:43.40 Stan Lemon um And they advertised the the heck out of it. But ultimately, went nowhere, you know?
00:24:49.53 Jon Yeah.
00:24:50.31 Stan Lemon But you know as far as the 90s go, Will Smith was at least a huge part of it for me. um you know Big Willie style, phenomenal album. Willennium, phenomenal album. he He changes his sound after Willennium. But then you go back to Fresh Prince Bel-Air songs, right? And like Summertime. Summertime is a fantastic song. is summer Oh man, Summertime probably the eighty s isn't it?
00:25:14.53 Stan Lemon Summertime by Fresh Prince. When did that come out? If this is going to be like 1988, it's going to kill me. No, it's 91. All right, I feel good.
00:25:21.19 Jon So, Summertime was featured in the previous version of our opening.
00:25:21.38 Stan Lemon I feel good.
00:25:26.31 Stan Lemon Yeah, Mrs. Lemon actually today, because it played in the car, commented that she always expects to hear Hamilton next. from From the old the old John Kohlmeyer mixed mashup.
00:25:37.26 Stan Lemon um Yeah. Yeah, so, okay. What is the best that you have seen thus far with these 90 takes?
00:25:49.19 Jon Um, I don't know. I didn't catalog them like you did, Stan. Now you're putting me on the spot. So
00:25:58.28 Stan Lemon I think, so I sent you Space Girls. I sent you, um i think I sent you a Seinfeld one. i also sent, Blackstreet Boys is pretty good.
00:26:03.66 Jon ah Backstreet Boys was pretty good.
00:26:07.24 Stan Lemon um I sent you the Pink Ranger. Were you Power Rangers kid?
00:26:10.00 Jon sent me the main ranger? Somewhat.
00:26:13.38 Stan Lemon Oh man, i was I was all in on the Power Rangers. So, um Boys to Men, Boys to Men was the best because they did their own version.
00:26:21.71 Jon This one was great. Yep.
00:26:23.08 Stan Lemon Of Iris. that That actually, to me, was single down they theyre single-handedly, hands down, the best of the bunch. so
00:26:31.82 Jon Oh, Tony Hawk and Snoop Dogg.
00:26:34.12 Stan Lemon Tony Hawk was good. Snoop Dogg was good. Yeah, yeah, um bunch of Bunch of characters from sitcoms. I saw Joey. I saw every every cast member of Friends Living did one at this point. Courtney Cox, ah that one was pretty good. She's been all over the place. Drew Barrymore, I've got a thing for Drew Barrymore. Yeah.
00:26:57.06 Jon that should surprise me but it doesn't
00:26:57.16 Stan Lemon Yeah. Oh man, i I had such a thing for Drew Barrymore. What's the actress from Clueless? What's her name?
00:27:06.27 Jon alicia silverstone why ah
00:27:07.96 Stan Lemon Alicia Silverstone. Yeah, hers was good. um I thought of you when I got to Garner. Garner's made me think of you for some reason. um
00:27:17.00 Jon why
00:27:17.93 Stan Lemon i don't know. I think because I always get her confused with Padme.
00:27:21.93 Jon ah
00:27:22.86 Stan Lemon i For some reason, I've always gotten them confused, right?
00:27:26.86 Jon It's interesting.
00:27:27.88 Stan Lemon And, uh, and I still, as I'm sitting here trying to remember what the heck is the Padme's what's her, what's her name?
00:27:33.62 Jon Natalie Portman.
00:27:34.53 Stan Lemon Natalie Portman. I don't know why i get Garner and Portman confused, but I do without fail. Oh, but so, so have you been playing this game where like, all right, what if, if I were to do my dad, what were you like back in the nineties? Have you thought about like what you would put?
00:27:51.14 Jon um Kind of, but like I was in elementary school.
00:27:57.64 Stan Lemon You were in elementary school. So here's how I've been thinking about it, right? Like if I just walk through the eras, 1990, right? what is What is Stan Lemon doing in 1990?
00:28:09.50 Stan Lemon I'm coping with the reality that is I'm no longer a single child, right?
00:28:12.96 Jon Hmm.
00:28:13.20 Stan Lemon 90 is all about learning how to have a sibling for me.
00:28:18.70 Jon Sure.
00:28:19.13 Stan Lemon Liz should be able to resonate with this, right? Okay, yeah, we'll go with it. So 91, for me, that's the year I get diagnosed with a heart condition, right? 92 is the big surgery and I get a Super Nintendo out of it, right?
00:28:32.83 Jon There you go.
00:28:33.01 Stan Lemon That's a big deal.
00:28:33.53 Jon Life changing.
00:28:34.66 Stan Lemon Life-changing, life-changing. Now think about what's going on in 1993, John.
00:28:40.39 Jon My sister was born.
00:28:41.80 Stan Lemon Your sister was born.
00:28:42.70 Jon Maybe my sister was born in 92. I don't know. I should know that.
00:28:46.41 Stan Lemon You don't know your sister's birthday? Like, should we talk about this?
00:28:47.69 Jon It's on the calendar.
00:28:49.63 Stan Lemon Yeah. Okay, the Bulls are going for their second championship.
00:28:55.91 Jon Ah, yes.
00:28:56.58 Stan Lemon All right? And so so literally, 93 for me is basketball overtaking the greater Chicagoland area.
00:29:03.25 Jon Back when the NBA was watchable.
00:29:05.19 Stan Lemon Yeah, oh man. I mean, ah so I was trying to to remember then what what was going on 1994. And 94 for me good things. and ninety four for me is all good things
00:29:19.90 Stan Lemon My beloved TV show ends in 1994. Star Trek The Next Generation has its finale in May of 1994. And I remember thinking that there was never going to be anything good on television ever again.
00:29:35.48 Jon Thankfully, you were surprised.
00:29:36.96 Stan Lemon i was yeah I was surprised. But like this was ah it was a devastating, traumatic year for me, right? so ah then I was thinking about the rest of the 90s. So the Power Rangers are in there. I've got more bulls, more bulls, more bulls, more bulls, more bulls.
00:29:55.74 Jon Was it 97? When...
00:29:58.74 Jon I remember very clearly begging my parents to let me stay up to watch a Bulls final game. And it would have been later nineties
00:30:08.75 Stan Lemon So 96-97 season is the sixty nine game season right So they they went so they they only lost 13 games that entire year.
00:30:21.94 Stan Lemon It was peak Chicago Bulls. And they go to the champions and they defeat the Jazz. It was absolutely incredible.
00:30:29.27 Jon Yeah. Yep.
00:30:30.24 Stan Lemon They were defending championships. They're going to go and win one more time, I believe, if my history is right here. When was the flu game? Chicago Bulls flu game. When was the flu game, John?
00:30:44.95 Stan Lemon The flu game occurred in 1997, June 11th. All right, so like the Chicago Bulls are such a huge part of my memories of the 90s and slinging hoops at the elementary school. I had rollerblades.
00:30:59.15 Stan Lemon I would take my rollerblades and my shoes and a basketball to the school. Why I didn't just walk, but I would i would do that so I could go shoot hoops, you know, because we were all going to be like Mike when we got older. We were were all wearing our Hanes t-shirts. Do you remember the crumpled bacon commercials?
00:31:14.25 Jon Oh, for sure.
00:31:15.06 Stan Lemon Yeah, the crumpled bacon t-shirts. Oh, so great. And the music was good too. So here's the other thing that I was thinking about because we're you know chronologically late 90s. um When does changes come out?
00:31:29.38 Stan Lemon Tupac Shakur changes. Do you remember?
00:31:31.83 Jon I do not remember, but I didn't listen to that until after I met you, so.
00:31:35.92 Stan Lemon So it was recorded in 1992, but it was not released until 1998 as part of the Greatest Hits album. And this is when rap music, beyond Big Willie style, rap music becomes a thing for me, right?
00:31:41.91 Jon Ah.
00:31:48.21 Stan Lemon And I fall deeply in love with West Coast rap and everything Tupac, all because of the the changes drop in 1998. Because prior to that, like, I'm too young to be listening to rap music, right?
00:32:02.59 Stan Lemon At 1998, I'm in junior high. I'm getting ready for computers to break across the world, right?
00:32:08.29 Jon Yep.
00:32:09.66 Stan Lemon These were good times, man.
00:32:10.13 Jon That was a legit scare.
00:32:11.95 Stan Lemon It was a legit scare. Everybody was, what was it called? It was a the Y2K bug, the Y2K bug, right?
00:32:17.48 Jon Why today? Yeah.
00:32:20.85 Stan Lemon Because we'd all figured that we were going to year calculation by just two two digits, I guess. I don't know.
00:32:26.16 Jon Right.
00:32:26.83 Stan Lemon But yeah, I don't know, man. This is what I'm loving, right?
00:32:28.78 Jon We didn't architect things at that time.
00:32:30.83 Stan Lemon I didn't architect these at this time. Yeah. But like, these were good years. I don't know. So you sent me something. We can pick on him because he's not, he never listened to the podcast. I'm sure of it. But you sent me something I thought was funny.
00:32:44.53 Stan Lemon After like the 13th video that I'd sent you on Instagram,
00:32:48.72 Jon Right. I tried to have this moment of self-reflection. It's like, have I just become my father-in-law in a later decade? Yep.
00:32:54.64 Stan Lemon Right. So your father-in-law notoriously loves the eighties. I have met many people born who came up in the eighties. So like I was born mid eighties, but like nineties, that's my decade. Right. So, you know, your father-in-law born in the seventies, his moment was in the eighties.
00:33:13.49 Stan Lemon And, ah He loves the 80s like no one on this planet. Like I genuinely don't think anybody thinks about the 80s like we think about the 90s. I believe that. Do you believe that?
00:33:26.13 Jon Probably, but I haven't done a lot of research. I mean, we just had our ah company annual celebration and it was 80s themed. Okay.
00:33:36.71 Stan Lemon That's because the people who are in charge were you know living life high in the 80s. They were all born in the 70s, right?
00:33:42.70 Jon Okay. Yep.
00:33:44.75 Stan Lemon Your moment's coming. But like i don't i really I genuinely don't think that's normal. I don't. I really, i truthfully don't. The 80s had some good moments, right? Back to the Future, that's that's a good one.
00:33:56.05 Stan Lemon um But I don't think it was iconic in the way that the 90s is, right? You ever Seinfeld? think Think about these shows that per permeate culture. Seinfeld.
00:34:08.08 Stan Lemon Friends, right? Love it, hate it, whatever. Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Dawson's Creek. Seventh Heaven. Like, some of these are good shows. Some of them are very much not. but But they're all out there.
00:34:18.95 Stan Lemon Lizzie McGuire. God, man. You know, Hilary Duff is is making a comeback right now.
00:34:23.57 Jon Did you listen to the new album?
00:34:25.27 Stan Lemon I did. I did.
00:34:26.16 Jon I didn't.
00:34:26.27 Stan Lemon I'm not even going to be ashamed to say it.
00:34:28.43 Jon Were you surprised at how good it was?
00:34:32.04 Stan Lemon Yeah. I mean, no, not really.
00:34:33.01 Jon was
00:34:33.64 Stan Lemon Not really. I mean, I get kind of, here's the thing. So I am, I'm rooting for Hilary Duff. I'm i like i Lizzie McGuire, man. Oh man. She's, she's, she was gorgeous then. She's still gorgeous.
00:34:47.67 Stan Lemon Still very talented. She's a mom now. Like she's, she's done the whole, like she's lived life. Right. And yeah, it's, it's, it's a pretty good album. I'd recommend the album.
00:34:55.86 Jon Um, I, there was some, it was a terrible book and I don't remember what it was, but it was basically like going through child stars from the Disney channel.
00:35:06.95 Stan Lemon Oh yeah.
00:35:06.96 Jon And like Hillary Duff was kind of groundbreaking and breaking the Disney channel mold too. because like she, worked into her contracts that no i can go off and make my own music and Disney doesn't have ownership of it and really paved the way for a lot of people who came after.
00:35:27.31 Stan Lemon Oh, that's interesting. I did not know that. um i will say, i just i just think she's amazing. So yeah.
00:35:37.01 Jon So Stan should buy tickets to the comeback tour and take either Sarah or Lucy.
00:35:37.20 Stan Lemon yet
00:35:41.35 Jon is Is Lucy into Hilary Duff?
00:35:43.78 Stan Lemon I don't think so.
00:35:44.84 Jon Okay.
00:35:45.07 Stan Lemon I think like, here's here's the, here's the, here's the fact, right? If Lucy pulls up Hilary Duff and listens to her album and she looks at Hilary Duff, she's like, oh, that's cool. When was she born? It's going to be the same year that her mother was born.
00:35:59.28 Stan Lemon You know? So like, it's, it's, ah it's just a, it's going to create a different dynamic, I think.
00:36:06.00 Jon the
00:36:06.70 Stan Lemon So, um yeah. So I'm trying to think of some of the other, other funnel ones I saw. joul remember Jewel?
00:36:13.81 Jon Cool. I do.
00:36:15.35 Stan Lemon Cameron Diaz?
00:36:16.66 Jon Sure.
00:36:16.75 Stan Lemon um Heidi Klum? Halle Berry? saw Halle Berry pop up. That was a fun one. um
00:36:23.57 Jon I saw Halle Berry because she put out a new movie recently, didn't she?
00:36:28.21 Stan Lemon Did Halle Berry? She doesn't look like she's aged at all, by the way.
00:36:33.02 Stan Lemon Yeah. I don't know, man. It's a Reese Witherspoon. I saw her do one as well. Trying to think what other ones I've seen. They're fun though. I genuinely enjoy them. And the Spice Girls one, those were all fantastic.
00:36:46.40 Stan Lemon um And yeah, I don't know. i maybe i'm ah Maybe I'm showing my my true color here by how much I like the Spice Girls.
00:36:57.82 Jon um Probably. But I remember when the Spice Girls were a thing.
00:37:04.35 Stan Lemon I, I, um, tonight, well, or today while I was talking with my wife, I was like, Hey, what if, what if tonight we watched spice world? Do remember the movie?
00:37:15.55 Jon yeah
00:37:16.96 Stan Lemon Did you see it?
00:37:18.33 Jon I did once, probably. Yeah.
00:37:20.51 Stan Lemon I definitely saw more than once. I'm ashamed. Um, I, I, yeah, I, I saw it and for some reason I thought it would be a good idea to watch it tonight. And fortunately my wife talked out it i wonder, do you think you can stream Spice World? Can you stream Spice World?
00:37:37.09 Jon Seems like probably.
00:37:38.88 Stan Lemon I bet you have to buy it. No, it's only available on digital purchase. Here's the thing. There's no, there's no, um, economic upside to including this into a streaming portfolio.
00:37:51.36 Stan Lemon Right? So for something to be valuable to stream, you're going like play it a lot.
00:37:57.94 Jon Sure.
00:37:58.67 Stan Lemon This is just going sit there going to be doing residuals um without anybody watching it. That's a bad platform choice.
00:38:04.82 Jon Do you think that's true? Millennials are all pretty nostalgic.
00:38:09.79 Stan Lemon Yeah, but are we like, okay, there's nostalgic and then there's there's watching Spice World. right? what What do you, I can't even imagine. What is the Rotten Tomatoes? Rotten for Spice World.
00:38:22.53 Stan Lemon Rotten Tomatoes, Spice World. This cannot possibly be good. I don't remember this being a good movie at, oh my goodness. All right. What do you think? All right, let's take a guess. What do you think the tomato meter is for Spice World?
00:38:39.23 Stan Lemon Oh, look at you. Are we playing by Price is Right rules or what?
00:38:43.81 Jon What is it?
00:38:44.49 Stan Lemon 30, 35% over 69 reviews.
00:38:46.81 Jon 35.
00:38:48.13 Stan Lemon The popcorn meter is 45%.
00:38:50.61 Jon I don't know. I don't know what the popcorn meter is.
00:38:53.50 Stan Lemon I believe the popcorn meter is for, you know, plebs like yourself and mine. Here, the critic consensus, Spice World's lack of cohesive plot. Because Jonathan, everybody went to see this movie for a cohesive plot.
00:39:09.66 Jon Right.
00:39:10.24 Stan Lemon will likely lose most viewers. But for fans of the Tiddler Girl group, there's more than enough fun to be had in their wacky, albeit superficial. Right, because we we thought it was not gonna be superficial.
00:39:21.31 Jon We thought that the Skrulls were non-superficial.
00:39:23.71 Stan Lemon Right, whirlwind of an adventure. ah
00:39:28.61 Jon So, went to IMDB's page for it, and the trailer started playing, and yes, I definitely have seen this. So...
00:39:36.88 Stan Lemon I've seen it multiple times. That's all I'm gonna say about that. here
00:39:40.96 Jon Oh, there's a making of Spice World TV movie.
00:39:41.09 Stan Lemon Yeah.
00:39:44.51 Stan Lemon Oh, there you go. Listen, have they they've just got the two albums, right? Am I am i am i crazy or is it just the two albums for the Spice Girls?
00:39:51.08 Jon I have no idea.
00:39:53.01 Stan Lemon Spice Girls.
00:39:53.85 Jon That sounds right.
00:39:55.94 Stan Lemon Just imagine if they'll...
00:39:56.22 Jon See, the 90s were also peak, like, group or pop groups.
00:40:02.53 Stan Lemon Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:40:02.62 Jon You had the boy bands, you had the
00:40:04.70 Stan Lemon ah New Kids on the Block popped up. but We already talked about Boys to Men. um ah Backstreet Boys, NSYNC. 90 Degrees had a fun one that I saw on on Instagram.
00:40:18.05 Stan Lemon So yeah, no, it's, I don't know. Yeah, I just see the two. i just see the two albums here. If they had more, it looks like they had some EPs along the way.
00:40:26.88 Jon Apparently there was also ace a Spice World video game on the PlayStation.
00:40:27.07 Stan Lemon They did a Greatest Hits album in 2007. Are you kidding me?
00:40:33.31 Stan Lemon are you kidding me
00:40:36.78 Stan Lemon What in the world would you even be game? Like, what's the gameplay like?
00:40:41.09 Jon Does it have a description?
00:40:41.34 Stan Lemon I, that here's, okay. Here's what's amazing.
00:40:44.32 Jon If you want to create dance movements of your own, maybe with the help of the Spice Girls, then this should be yours.
00:40:44.44 Stan Lemon I think.
00:40:49.39 Jon You can also have a bit of fantasy to be behind the scenes with girls too.
00:40:50.80 Stan Lemon All
00:40:53.38 Jon This one will also help you tune to a music created by the dance movements. So it was like a dance program game?
00:41:02.53 Stan Lemon right, Jonathan, here's, here's here's reality, right? There were musicians and there were marketers.
00:41:09.26 Jon Yes.
00:41:09.34 Stan Lemon And I would venture to say the Spice Girls somehow fell into the latter camp.
00:41:16.03 Jon Yes, very much so.
00:41:16.86 Stan Lemon Right? and and And I say that as someone who absolutely loves the song Wannabe, say you'll be there and two become one.
00:41:23.75 Jon Yep.
00:41:26.29 Stan Lemon Like like those three songs... I'll sing for you right now without missing a beat, right?
00:41:31.56 Jon Nice.
00:41:31.74 Stan Lemon Because they're just they're they're in the lemon cannon for greatest music ever. um You know, up there with the likes of Billy Joel and Zac Brown and Jimmy Buffett and the Spice Girls, right?
00:41:47.26 Jon And some of those have good musicianship as well.
00:41:51.10 Stan Lemon Yeah, yeah. But, you know, like, listen, I don't know who actually wrote those songs. I doubt that the hi ladies on the Spice Girls did, but yeah it
00:41:59.26 Jon Well, I'm sure you can find out, Stan.
00:42:01.05 Stan Lemon probably, but John, that requires more Googling. I just think it's, all right here, who wrote Wannabe by the Spice Girls? All right, Wannabe by the Spice Girls was written by all five group members. Are you kidding me? In collaboration with songwriters Matt Rowe and Richard Biff Standard.
00:42:19.52 Stan Lemon All right. I would have guessed that that was a song that picked up. Now I'm really curious to see how many of my favorite songs by the Spice Girls were written by the Spice Girls.
00:42:33.85 Stan Lemon Looks like this Richard Standard and Matt Rowe actually helped write a bunch of the songs, but it was also written by them. That's crazy. I would have thought, I don't know, man. i Like so many of...
00:42:43.59 Jon It doesn't take a lot to get a writing credit though, Steve.
00:42:46.14 Stan Lemon It doesn't take, that's that's fair. It doesn't take a, but it says the key writers were the Spice Girls, Richard Standard and Matthew Rowe.
00:42:51.38 Jon Okay.
00:42:53.05 Stan Lemon Richard Standard Matthew Rowe were the producers.
00:42:53.08 Jon Huh.
00:42:55.05 Stan Lemon So of course they would have a writing credit. I don't know that I'm like, my mind's being blown because I, there's so much of the music that you and I love from this era that is 1000% not written by the person performing it.
00:43:06.27 Stan Lemon You know?
00:43:06.58 Jon Correct.
00:43:07.48 Stan Lemon um I think once you get into the, the details on who wrote what, you find yourself in a very different part of music. This is why i like Mac McAnally, right? He wrote a bunch of songs that Jimmy Buffett played, Kenny chesumm kenney Chesney played, et cetera.
00:43:24.80 Stan Lemon And when I realized that was him writing the songs, i fell in love with his music. So.
00:43:30.58 Jon Well, one of my favorite singers of all time. Perhaps the argument could be made for the greatest singer of all time.
00:43:38.75 Stan Lemon If you say Weezer, I'm gonna slap you.
00:43:40.61 Jon Frank Sinatra.
00:43:41.76 Stan Lemon ah
00:43:42.71 Jon Didn't write any of his stuff.
00:43:44.73 Stan Lemon Fair enough, fair enough. I mean, I really thought you were gonna say Weezer. I'm i'm i'm surprised, but okay, it's a better choice than Weezer.
00:43:51.71 Jon I mean, everyone should own Weezer's Blue album, um but I wouldn't call them the greatest singers of all time.
00:43:58.69 Stan Lemon That which by the way was released in 1994, 1994. Is Jimmy Eat World still thing?
00:44:02.00 Jon The 90s. I don't know year. Okay.
00:44:05.69 Stan Lemon um is jimmy ew world still a thing
00:44:09.41 Jon Not that I've heard recently, but who knows.
00:44:12.25 Stan Lemon that's That's another band that that jumps out for me for the 90s. um I don't know.
00:44:20.77 Jon So then we move into like the whole punk scene.
00:44:20.83 Stan Lemon ah
00:44:22.56 Jon Okay.
00:44:25.21 Stan Lemon Yes, I spent a number of years embracing Scott Punk. Scott Punk was peak in the late 90s, maybe early aughts slightly.
00:44:34.08 Jon But like Blink-182.
00:44:34.37 Stan Lemon yeah Blink-182, yeah.
00:44:40.96 Jon Dashboard confessional, is that later?
00:44:42.50 Stan Lemon That doesn't count as punk.
00:44:42.68 Jon Emo.
00:44:43.46 Stan Lemon That's emo. The whole emo thing though.
00:44:45.03 Jon The emo thing, right?
00:44:45.89 Stan Lemon Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, you Charlotte, good, char good Charlotte, good Charlotte. Sorry. Good Charlotte.
00:44:51.64 Jon Charlotte.
00:44:52.49 Stan Lemon That's another one. Uh, heck we're, we're not even talking about green day, right?
00:44:57.50 Jon Well.
00:44:59.81 Stan Lemon Come on. You don't like green day.
00:45:01.67 Jon Not particularly, no.
00:45:02.53 Stan Lemon Oh my gosh. Are you kidding me? Basket case is a piece of art. Uh, we got some smashing pumpkins in there. Surely you were a smashing pumpkins guy.
00:45:09.81 Jon love Smashing Pumpkins for sure.
00:45:11.20 Stan Lemon Yeah, yeah.
00:45:11.43 Jon That still makes regular rotations.
00:45:14.19 Stan Lemon Of course it does. For you, Jonathan, of course it does. I think, here's here's a hot take for you. I think in my entire, because I pride myself on having pretty eclectic music taste.
00:45:24.79 Stan Lemon I don't think I'm stretching by saying this.
00:45:27.23 Jon When you say that, that is true. More true than for a lot of people who say that.
00:45:34.37 Stan Lemon But but i I think, and I could be wrong about this, but I think the only song that that I have actually in my library is 1979.
00:45:46.31 Stan Lemon Maybe, maybe I have tonight tonight, but I definitely, I mean, 1979 is, is to me like quintessential pumpkins, right?
00:45:49.28 Jon There you go. Good ones.
00:45:56.55 Stan Lemon Yeah.
00:45:57.06 Jon For sure.
00:45:58.53 Stan Lemon yeah I don't have to tonight tonight in my list. Maybe I should add it right now. I feel like this is actually a huge, huge gap.
00:46:05.67 Jon Yes, you should do that. You should probably also add disarm.
00:46:10.31 Stan Lemon and even I can't even think of what Disarm is off the top my head.
00:46:13.48 Jon Okay.
00:46:13.63 Stan Lemon Like, um Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness, that is the it's the album that I associate with the Pumpkins, right?
00:46:17.69 Jon It's the greatest album. Yeah.
00:46:21.39 Stan Lemon I know they have music.
00:46:21.82 Jon Yep.
00:46:23.55 Stan Lemon They have music before. I guess they have music after probably too. um But to me, that's that's the Pumpkins, right?
00:46:31.50 Jon For sure.
00:46:32.99 Stan Lemon Oh, good stuff. i See, I don't think they make music like this anymore.
00:46:34.66 Jon Again, not necessarily a great singer, but a very differentiated and unique voice.
00:46:42.37 Stan Lemon very differentiated unique voice, kind of like Reese Roper from Five Iron Frenzy, just just to name another one. But I think also like, um there's there's not, like we're not auto tuning everything in their mother in the nineties, right?
00:46:55.33 Jon right.
00:46:56.84 Stan Lemon And people have to play instruments, you know? ay And I just, there's some great, there's some really great songs from that era.
00:47:07.59 Stan Lemon um Speaking of 90s bands, I also saw Dave Matthews Band on ah Instagram, which i like I'm not a big Dave Matthews fan. Mrs. Lemon is a huge, huge Dave Matthews fan.
00:47:22.73 Jon Did you buy the tickets I found for you yet?
00:47:25.38 Stan Lemon When did you send those?
00:47:27.21 Jon I don't You were talking about how you hadn't found anything else that you wanted to see yet.
00:47:30.15 Stan Lemon oh, you sent me like seven links in a row, Jonathan.
00:47:30.49 Jon And I saw you like seven things.
00:47:33.11 Stan Lemon And I was actually i was actually at a um a show at this point. So I did not look through all of them. I definitely missed that.
00:47:41.73 Jon Well, Dave Matthews is coming to like Noblesville or something.
00:47:44.61 Stan Lemon Yeah, okay. So, all right. So we've been to the Noblesville venue once for a Zac Brown band concert, and it is the worst possible place to park.
00:47:54.95 Stan Lemon Like, it is it is so shockingly bad.
00:47:55.28 Jon Hmm.
00:47:58.43 Stan Lemon And i I don't know, man. Like, if I wanted to get, like, secondhand high, I think I would be all about the Dave Matthews concert. But this is this is an outdoor venue, and people were stoned out of their mind for Zac Brown. I can only fathom what it would be like ah for Dave Matthews.
00:48:15.09 Jon Hilary Duff is also coming to Noblesville.
00:48:17.86 Stan Lemon Now see that, but I would go to, I'd go to that one. I don't think that would be a stoner concert either. That'd
00:48:22.04 Jon July 23rd. I don't think it would be there.
00:48:25.11 Stan Lemon be hot though. It'd be hot outside.
00:48:27.83 Stan Lemon Noblesville. I would, I feel like, I feel like she's an indoor concert venue person.
00:48:31.95 Jon The Ruoff Music Center.
00:48:33.61 Stan Lemon Yeah. I mean, it's just a cornfield that they put a fence around and a stage at the front. That's all it is. They do, um,
00:48:41.39 Jon Tickets from $37, Stan.
00:48:43.85 Stan Lemon Yeah, those are those are back on the Greenway. If you want those, you got to get there crazy early. I'll never forget. so when we went to that Zac Brown Band concert, cause that's the first time I'd ever been to Ruoff. First and only time I've been to Ruoff. This is how much of an impression left on me. um it's It was one of those venues, right, where like people are just trying to get wasted.
00:49:01.84 Stan Lemon And so as we're in line, there are multiple people with the little airplane-style liquor bottles. Yeah. And they're just pounding them as they're going in.
00:49:13.01 Stan Lemon Cause you can't carry alcohol in Right. And I'm thinking to myself, like what in the world, like what, what is going on in your life that you're going to get completely faded before you even walk through the door?
00:49:22.76 Jon Right.
00:49:23.28 Stan Lemon You know? Oh, I don't know.
00:49:26.03 Jon I mean, that's kind of the vibe for Jimmy Buffett, but...
00:49:26.40 Stan Lemon I'm,
00:49:30.09 Stan Lemon Yeah, maybe. yeah no, I don't know. I never went to Jimmy Buffett concert. I really can't can't say. i will say the Mac McAnally one, because it was probably at the probably because it was at the Palladium, right? The Palladium is pretty fancy place. um I felt young in that crowd.
00:49:46.78 Jon Oh, and like the majority of people would have no idea who he was. Like, unless you actually care about the music.
00:49:52.49 Stan Lemon Probably. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think there's an element of people just go to the Palladium for shows because it's the Palladium. All right, Jonathan, favorite thing from the 90s.
00:50:01.43 Jon Okay.
00:50:06.86 Jon Favorite thing from the My wife.
00:50:10.93 Jon my wife
00:50:12.40 Stan Lemon oh Oh, look at you. That was so sweet. and i I actually feel a little like um stomach acid coming up like I'm a puke.
00:50:21.11 Stan Lemon was a good, that was good, that's a good answer.
00:50:21.42 Jon um
00:50:22.45 Stan Lemon She doesn't, she doesn't listen to the podcast. You're going to get any credit for that.
00:50:28.46 Jon What else? Space Jam?
00:50:31.14 Stan Lemon Oh, that was such a good movie.
00:50:32.66 Jon The real and only Space Jam?
00:50:34.06 Stan Lemon Yeah. I did the whole LeBron thing. Like I, this is not a knock on LeBron podcast.
00:50:36.55 Jon don't get it.
00:50:38.22 Stan Lemon We wouldn't do that, but LeBron is no Michael Jordan. Um, what about Janko's jeans or Lee pipes jeans?
00:50:48.14 Jon Listen, man, I didn't buy anything fancy in the 90s. So I think the majority of my clothes was hand-me-down. so
00:50:55.60 Stan Lemon Okay. Wait, wait, wait. You had a sister.
00:50:59.14 Jon I had a sister, but like my mom was a Lutheran school teacher.
00:51:02.67 Stan Lemon okay.
00:51:02.65 Jon I
00:51:03.11 Stan Lemon All right. Because I was going to say, if if you're telling me that in the 90s, you were wearing Liz's hand-me-downs, got another hour of the podcast to go through, buddy.
00:51:11.99 Jon was probably bigger than Liz at that point, too. So...
00:51:15.28 Stan Lemon so So my parents never bought baggy jeans for me on principle and also because they were more expensive than they felt that jeans should be, right?
00:51:24.06 Jon Correct.
00:51:24.85 Stan Lemon And I could not afford JNCOs because those were insane. But I could afford Lee Pipes. And i bought i bought a pair during seventh grade.
00:51:35.57 Stan Lemon And I wore them almost every single day. I washed them quite regularly, like probably every two days. But basically wore the same pair of jeans for most of seventh grade. I like looking back, I'm a little embarrassed, but I could only afford the one pair, man. I was mowing lawns and stuff, but like, that's a lot. That's a lot of mowing.
00:51:54.45 Stan Lemon And then, um, I remember there came a point in time where I was able, i was at, do you remember Carson Perry Scott?
00:51:54.59 Jon Yep.
00:51:59.81 Stan Lemon I don't think that's a store anymore.
00:52:01.92 Jon I do not. Okay.
00:52:02.73 Stan Lemon So, okay, there this there' was Kohl's, that was the bottom rung. There was JCPenney, that was the middle rung.
00:52:06.94 Jon Yep.
00:52:07.41 Stan Lemon And then there wass Carson Perry Scott, which the upper rung, right? For a time, Macy's was a competitor of Carson Perry Scott.
00:52:10.30 Jon Okay.
00:52:13.52 Stan Lemon now Now, you know, Macy's is basically Walmart with, you know, clean floors, right?
00:52:18.48 Jon Right.
00:52:19.49 Stan Lemon That's that's all it is. So,
00:52:21.70 Jon everything else on that list doesn't exist? JC Penney still exists.
00:52:24.53 Stan Lemon now I don't know, pens Pennies and Kohl's still exist, yeah.
00:52:27.66 Jon Okay.
00:52:27.90 Stan Lemon Yeah.
00:52:28.14 Jon I guess Cole still.
00:52:28.46 Stan Lemon We could, we could, we could talk about the time that Penny's almost, uh, ended because of the Apple executive.
00:52:28.86 Jon exist
00:52:35.63 Stan Lemon That's the story. Do you know what, do you remember this?
00:52:38.19 Jon I don't.
00:52:39.63 Stan Lemon So I, this is, this is,
00:52:40.21 Jon I hate shopping stands. So.
00:52:42.13 Stan Lemon I don't like shopping either, but some sometime in the aughts, ah please don't be fact-checked this because there's go to be a whole bunch that's wrong. They got an executive from Apple who decided to simplify pricing, right? So penny Penny's whole game is like you walk in, there's a $70 shirt that's marked down to 50. But if you've got, you know, Penny's cash or whatever, and you got the credit card and this one, you can get it for $5.
00:53:07.14 Stan Lemon Right. That's, that's, that's the whole jam. So he, this executive, I think it was a heap, but honestly, I don't even remember, um, went to ah like honest pricing. This is the honest pricing moment in Penny's existence.
00:53:20.05 Stan Lemon And so everything was stickered exactly what you would buy it for. And their sales just plummeted, plummeted.
00:53:27.62 Jon Yep.
00:53:28.59 Stan Lemon All the psychology of like, I'm getting a discount versus not was was the key factor. um I find this fascinating. Like I wish someone would do a study on the psychology of JCPenney pricing model.
00:53:41.81 Stan Lemon Because i think I think it would be incredibly um interesting to just like pull apart and and and talk about, right?
00:53:48.24 Jon This is fascinating, even from like the Apple side of things, because did you read a Iger's memoir?
00:53:51.69 Stan Lemon Yeah, yeah.
00:53:56.14 Jon At least the first one he put out right now, the only one.
00:53:56.62 Stan Lemon Yes. Yep. Yeah.
00:53:58.94 Jon So he tells very much where like he brings Steve Jobs to Disney World and he's showing off this new resort, which I think was Art of Animation. um And it was like the value resort.
00:54:12.22 Jon And Steve was like, why?
00:54:16.65 Stan Lemon Well, it's because it doesn't vibe, right? With the way that Steve thought about the world, there's no, like you don't give cheap product, you give the best product and you price it accordingly.
00:54:20.66 Jon Right.
00:54:25.09 Jon Yep.
00:54:26.77 Stan Lemon Right. And so, you know, Apple has historically never dabbled into, um, like cheap products, right? I mean, there's some exceptions you you could argue are cheap products. I don't know that they actually are in the grand scheme of things, but the iPhone five C right notoriously, um, was Apple's foray into affordable phones.
00:54:49.29 Stan Lemon Um, you could make a case that the 17 E is kind of like that, but I don't, I really don't think it fits that, that vibe. um The Neo today, maybe you make that pitch, we'll see. But the Neo is is kind of out of character for Apple, um which is part of why it's so interesting, right?
00:55:08.53 Stan Lemon Shoot, you can go buy the crappy HomePods that, you know, Syria doesn't work on correctly that we have, which are like five years old and they're still the same price, right? Apple doesn't budge on pricing. The way that I remember this is the executive wasn't so much trying to not do value pricing, but was trying not to do gimmicky pricing. So the the sticker factored in any discount that was going on rather than like, cause because I don't like you probably not done this a while.
00:55:37.39 Stan Lemon But if you shop in pennies, It is impossible for a human being with a mathematics PhD to know what what they're going to check out with, like the price-wise. It is is simply not possible for someone to purchase clothing at Penny's and have any idea how it's going to ring up, right?
00:55:57.93 Stan Lemon And that was...
00:55:58.00 Jon Yeah, that would drive me nuts.
00:55:59.64 Stan Lemon Oh, it's, I think it's awful. I think it's genuinely awful, but that's the thing that they changed, right? So that like you would, you could walk through and say, oh, I only have $75 of clothing, or I have $750 of clothing. There was no ambiguity. But it turns out that Americans are more likely to spend money if they have no idea how much it's going to cost.
00:56:22.70 Stan Lemon Checks out, right?
00:56:24.43 Jon Probably, but not me.
00:56:25.24 Stan Lemon How did we get on the JCPenney thing?
00:56:26.54 Jon And like, I've, right.
00:56:26.59 Stan Lemon Oh, talking about Carson Perry Scott in the 70s, in the 90s. Yeah.
00:56:29.26 Jon And jeans, like.
00:56:30.45 Stan Lemon Jeans.
00:56:30.62 Jon Okay.
00:56:30.76 Stan Lemon Yeah. All right. So back back to Carson Perry Scott. So that was that was top tier. Penny's in the middle, right? And at least in the Chicagoland area. even know if Carson Perry Scott existed. It was like it was like a competitor Nordstrom's. That's probably actually the best analogy.
00:56:45.12 Stan Lemon ay Anyhow, on the triple sale rack, right? So it was on sale, on sale, on sale. ah There was a Tommy Hilfiger jacket. And I would be the coolest kid in the universe if I spent every dollar I had to buy this Tommy Hilfiger jacket. And I did. And I'm pretty sure there was ah there's a blizzard in Chicagoland in 1999 that put record snowfall. The bus was like...
00:57:11.57 Stan Lemon an hour and a half late coming to the bus stop. And, uh, I, I should have been wearing a winter jacket, but, but gosh, darn it, John, I was going to wear that Tommy Hilfiger jacket every single day of my life.
00:57:22.36 Stan Lemon Um, I worked a class, I worked at gym, I wore it at the bus stop, the whole nine yards. Um,
00:57:28.59 Jon This is this explains a lot about where you are now, Stan.
00:57:32.62 Stan Lemon what, what pray tell do you mean, Jonathan?
00:57:33.58 Jon ah
00:57:38.78 Jon I mean, you had lots of motivation to be able to buy fancy things.
00:57:44.30 Stan Lemon Yeah, but like look at me now. I'm wearing a true classics t-shirt. right like This is the most affordable thing I could find to wear. I don't care anymore. That's the beauty of it all. But yeah, I don't know. i there's There's definitely um books could be written on the aesthetic of the 90s and the things it did to us culturally.
00:58:05.26 Stan Lemon maybe maybe that's Maybe that's where this thing goes downhill, this nostalgia of the 90s.
00:58:05.51 Jon For sure.
00:58:10.00 Stan Lemon I will say i had a really, really cool bright green Sony ah Walkman. Discman? It was Discman.
00:58:20.11 Jon This one?
00:58:20.16 Stan Lemon Walkman was the cassette player, right?
00:58:21.84 Jon Yep.
00:58:22.45 Stan Lemon Yeah, I had bright green Sony Discman and it fit in those Leap Pipes pockets perfectly.
00:58:28.95 Jon Nice.
00:58:30.42 Stan Lemon And about the back pocket, like it fit in the front pocket. My phone barely fits in the front pocket of my jeans now and those Leap Pipes had enough room that the whole Discman slid right in there.
00:58:41.46 Stan Lemon Yeah.
00:58:41.68 Jon And then when you would walk around, it would skip.
00:58:44.50 Stan Lemon no No, no, no. I had the 40, I had the 40 X one.
00:58:45.46 Jon Oh, you got the... ah
00:58:47.38 Stan Lemon Right. So, cause it would read 40 seconds ahead. Right. Um, and so all you had to do was have a slender step, you know, every, every 20 seconds.
00:58:59.12 Stan Lemon Right.
00:58:59.28 Jon So the first one i had was silver.
00:58:59.52 Stan Lemon Yeah.
00:59:03.38 Jon Um, just like the plastic metallic color. And then I got another one that had like actual clamps around it that had some of like the anti skipping technology in it.
00:59:13.04 Stan Lemon yeah
00:59:18.10 Stan Lemon So if you're if you're really bored, mine was the DEJ621. It was a green sunny disc, man.
00:59:25.07 Jon I don't got that amount of detail anymore.
00:59:28.12 Stan Lemon It's...
00:59:28.24 Jon Did you ever have like a ah travel DVD player?
00:59:32.28 Stan Lemon No, never.
00:59:33.02 Jon No, I had a travel DVD player.
00:59:33.72 Stan Lemon No. So um here's here's what I did. When I was a sophomore in high school, so this would have been... I don't we'll say 2001, 2002, somewhere in there.
00:59:44.53 Stan Lemon um I saved up and I bought this Hewlett Packard laptop, right? No one had a laptop at this point time, unless were a business professional.
00:59:53.61 Jon Right. And they were giant. Yep.
00:59:56.76 Stan Lemon ah And...
00:59:56.91 Jon I remember my uncle brought a laptop to family vacation once and we played like Minesweeper on it and was awesome.
01:00:04.05 Stan Lemon Yeah, so for me, sophomore high school, it was socket code. And... um That was the primary use case. And I had this weird, had this weird, no, it got a little more than that.
01:00:15.56 Jon It's all like 30 minutes of battery time.
01:00:19.09 Stan Lemon It got a little more than that. um And here's why. i had this aversion to Intel.
01:00:24.92 Jon Hmm. Hmm.
01:00:25.26 Stan Lemon right I don't know why. like You remember the P2 was the coolest chip. there were There were Pentium chip commercials in the 90s.
01:00:32.88 Jon Yep.
01:00:33.10 Stan Lemon They were amazing. The P2, the P3 was a train wreck. You remember? Nobody loved the P3. But then the P4 was going to fundamentally change computing as we knew it.
01:00:39.53 Jon Mm-hmm.
01:00:42.38 Jon They're
01:00:42.54 Stan Lemon And so I bought an AMD Athlon 4 processor laptop from Hewlett Packard because I was not going to be an Intel guy because the P3 was so bad.
01:00:52.34 Jon here.
01:00:53.66 Stan Lemon um And that was that was what I used if I wanted to watch a DVD, like if I went camping or you know whatever, right? I brought that whole laptop. I would code and I would would watch a DVD. And at this point in time, John, I don't have a lot of DVDs.
01:01:08.56 Stan Lemon I have Star Trek First Contact, right?
01:01:11.57 Jon Nice.
01:01:12.28 Stan Lemon Fantastic movie, also from the 90s.
01:01:12.38 Jon Great movie.
01:01:14.84 Stan Lemon um I have Men in Black.
01:01:18.06 Jon Great movie.
01:01:18.99 Stan Lemon And trying think what else I had.
01:01:19.32 Jon The first one.
01:01:21.40 Stan Lemon There's there's a third movie. Oh, I i would have had Wild Wild West.
01:01:24.32 Jon Nice.
01:01:25.04 Stan Lemon right? Those, those have been three.
01:01:25.94 Jon I don't think I ever owned Wild Wild West.
01:01:28.62 Stan Lemon I still have, it's sitting in a DVD binder upstairs that I haven't opened in who knows how long. Um, and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:01:34.61 Jon Nice. You should have your kids look through. Pick something out. Watch it on DVD. It's like, why is it all fuzzy?
01:01:41.32 Stan Lemon I might've also had, um, what was the Drew Barrymore movie where she's Cinderella? Is it ever after? I'd ever after.
01:01:49.09 Jon Never after.
01:01:49.94 Stan Lemon Yeah. Um, you know what movie I really liked? Can't hardly wait.
01:01:55.62 Jon don't know if I've ever seen it.
01:01:57.08 Stan Lemon Oh, so good. So everybody, so Can't Hardly Wait and She's That. She's All That? She's All That?
01:02:02.02 Jon She's all that I've seen.
01:02:02.12 Stan Lemon Is that right? Yeah. That one came a little afterwards. Can't Hardly Wait it was a fantastic movie. That one resonated with me. I wanted to be the main character. that was going to be that guy, right?
01:02:13.05 Stan Lemon Because he was a nerd and he like saves the day.
01:02:16.34 Jon Seth Green.
01:02:17.53 Stan Lemon Yeah. Yeah, Seth Green. um He's a nerd. he wins the day and he gets the girl. Right. So, so that's can't hardly wait was my, um that was my movie.
01:02:30.84 Stan Lemon Yeah.
01:02:31.68 Jon 42% on Rotten Tomatoes.
01:02:33.91 Stan Lemon 42%. That's better than I would have, would have expected.
01:02:34.60 Jon Let's see what She's All That is.
01:02:37.07 Stan Lemon Yeah. Yeah.
01:02:37.76 Jon That showed up as a thing. 43% for she's all That.
01:02:41.86 Stan Lemon See, Can't Halloway-Wit was better. yeah um who's the Who's the lead guy in that movie? I can't remember.
01:02:47.59 Jon which one?
01:02:48.32 Stan Lemon Is that Ethan Embry? Can't Halloway-Wit. I need to pull up IMDb and look at this. um Great movie, probably does not stand the test of time to be honest with you. But Jennifer Love Hewitt is in it.
01:03:03.16 Stan Lemon I'm pretty sure I saw one her 90s Instagram runs too. um Ethan Embry, Preston Myers. Yeah, wow, he he's he does not look the same age-wise. And yes, Seth Green is in that.
01:03:16.62 Stan Lemon um I don't think I had that on DVD, but that i I've definitely watched that one way more than anyone should have, so. here's Here's the bottom line, John. ah As we're coming up here, little past the hour, I think the 90s was fantastic.
01:03:33.88 Stan Lemon I ah think nostalgia is a powerful force to be reckoned with. And i am rather enjoying how mutilated my algorithm has become with 90s nostalgia.
01:03:46.48 Stan Lemon So...
01:03:47.09 Jon Oh, I miss the Lord of the Rings stuff, so we'll have to get back to that at some point.
01:03:51.24 Stan Lemon We'll get back there. Oh, hey hot take here. I think Lucy is about to start reading Screwtape Letters.
01:03:56.14 Jon Nice. Anna was working on her way through screw tape letters, so maybe they should read it together.
01:03:56.98 Stan Lemon Yeah.
01:04:00.59 Stan Lemon It's such a good movie. She's got to read it for school, I think. So she's going to do probably a rapid fire read here.
01:04:02.70 Jon It's a book, but, you know.
01:04:04.94 Stan Lemon But um such a great book. Such a great book. right, Jonathan. On that note, I should probably hit the record button, huh?
01:04:13.42 Jon You probably should, but i can actually i can actually see that you did know.
01:04:14.48 Stan Lemon that Just kidding. Just kidding. ah All right, Jonathan. Until next time, my friend.
01:04:21.14 Jon Until next time, we'll talk to later, Stan.